Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

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Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Ian Baxte » Sun, 02 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Where should I pack any Aerosol canisters for air travel?
suitcase or hand-luggage?

thanks in advance,
ian.

 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Brian » Sun, 02 Jul 2000 04:00:00



>Where should I pack any Aerosol canisters for air travel?
>suitcase or hand-luggage?

According to the airlines, neither.
These (compressed gasses) are prohibited items as defined in any
timetable/condition of carriage.
You might be able to sneak one or two in your carry-on if the x-ray operator
is dozing.
But why pack stuff you can buy when you get there ?

Brian

 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Jen p » Sun, 02 Jul 2000 04:00:00



>>Where should I pack any Aerosol canisters for air travel?
>>suitcase or hand-luggage?

>According to the airlines, neither.
>These (compressed gasses) are prohibited items as defined in any
>timetable/condition of carriage.
>You might be able to sneak one or two in your carry-on if the x-ray operator
>is dozing.
>But why pack stuff you can buy when you get there ?

>Brian

My FA manual states under Medical/toilette articles:  Aerosol cans up to 16 oz.
are permitted.  I cannot speak for all airlines, but keep in mind that asthma
inhalers are aerosol.  Interestingly under smoking materials, our policy
states:

-personal use
-carried on individual or in purse, not in  carry-on luggage
-refillable butane lighters are not allowed

I wonder how many people are aware of this?

 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by el.. » Sun, 02 Jul 2000 04:00:00





>>>Where should I pack any Aerosol canisters for air travel?
>>>suitcase or hand-luggage?

>>According to the airlines, neither.
>>These (compressed gasses) are prohibited items as defined in any
>>timetable/condition of carriage.
>>You might be able to sneak one or two in your carry-on if the x-ray operator
>>is dozing.
>>But why pack stuff you can buy when you get there ?

>>Brian

>My FA manual states under Medical/toilette articles:  Aerosol cans up to 16 oz.
>are permitted.  I cannot speak for all airlines, but keep in mind that asthma
>inhalers are aerosol.  Interestingly under smoking materials, our policy
>states:

>-personal use
>-carried on individual or in purse, not in  carry-on luggage
>-refillable butane lighters are not allowed

>I wonder how many people are aware of this?

Probably most smokers back in the days of smoking on planes as the
norm. I certainly was aware of it.
 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Brian » Sun, 02 Jul 2000 04:00:00



>>Probably most smokers back in the days of smoking on planes as the
>>norm. I certainly was aware of it.

>Really?  I mean, people still carry their smokes and lighters.  It was news
to
>me that you were allowed to carry a lighter in your purse, but not in your
>carry-on luggage.

The lighter must be 'on your person' which includes purses I suppose. Just
not up in the overhead.
Another little quirk is that only *one* book of matches is allowed anywhere.
I ran foul of this once, with a particularly diligent screener. I tend to
pick them up on my travels and chuck them in my carryon, such that at the
end of a trip there can be 5 or 6 in there. My bag was hand-searched (due to
cameras etc.) and he made me throw away all but one book.

Brian

 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Jen p » Mon, 03 Jul 2000 04:00:00


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>Probably most smokers back in the days of smoking on planes as the
>norm. I certainly was aware of it.
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Really?  I mean, people still carry their smokes and lighters.  It was news to
me that you were allowed to carry a lighter in your purse, but not in your
carry-on luggage.  
 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Jen p » Mon, 03 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:>t be 'on your person' which includes purses I suppose. Just
>not up in the overhead.
>Another little quirk is that only *one* book of matches is allowed anywhere.
>I ran foul of this once, with a particularly diligent screener. I tend to
>pick them up on my travels and chuck them in my carryon, such that at the
>end of a trip there can be 5 or 6 in there. My bag was hand-searched (due to
>cameras etc.) and he made me throw away all but one book.

>Brian

Yes,  I know what you're saying.  I'm saying that I was not aware of that until
I learned it in training.  Before I actually worked for the airlines, I had no
idea that you could carry one book of matches, not two, or that it had to be on
your person.  
 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Mark Roger » Mon, 03 Jul 2000 04:00:00



> Where should I pack any Aerosol canisters for air travel?
> suitcase or hand-luggage?

What type of aerosols are they?

As others have indicated, as long as they are medicinal or toilet
articles, you are permitted up to 2 liters.  The net quantity of each
single article also must not exceed 0.5 liters.  They are permitted in
checked or carry-on baggage.  It's also an ICAO rule, and therefore
applies to all participatory airlines, unless they submit a variation.
Most airlines are included in this group, and I'm not aware of any that
have submitted variations to this regulation.

If the aerosols are not medicinal or toilet articles, they are forbidden
unless properly declared, packaged, and shipped according to the
regulations.

--Mark Rogers

 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by el.. » Mon, 03 Jul 2000 04:00:00




Quote:

>>Probably most smokers back in the days of smoking on planes as the
>>norm. I certainly was aware of it.
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>Really?  I mean, people still carry their smokes and lighters.  It was news to
>me that you were allowed to carry a lighter in your purse, but not in your
>carry-on luggage.  

Well, now you know. :-)
 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Mark Roger » Mon, 03 Jul 2000 04:00:00



> >Probably most smokers back in the days of smoking on planes as the
> >norm. I certainly was aware of it.
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> Really?  I mean, people still carry their smokes and lighters.  It was news to
> me that you were allowed to carry a lighter in your purse, but not in your
> carry-on luggage.

Technically, a lighter is not allowed in your purse.  The term is "on
your person", and there is a specific prohibition from placing the
lighter in carry-on baggage.  A purse definitely qualifies as carry-on
baggage under these regulations.  There is a limit to the enforceability
of the regulations, however.

--Mark Rogers

 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Brian » Mon, 03 Jul 2000 04:00:00



>Technically, a lighter is not allowed in your purse.  The term is "on
>your person", and there is a specific prohibition from placing the
>lighter in carry-on baggage.  A purse definitely qualifies as carry-on
>baggage under these regulations.  There is a limit to the enforceability
>of the regulations, however.

IME it's never enforced. Most of my trips involve SEA or YYJ, both of which
are no-smoking after security.
Prior to going through the metal detector the lighter and smokes go into the
carryon and stay there. Apart from my encounter with the 'matchbook guy'
elsewhere, not a word has ever been said.
In my defence, the carryon goes under the seat due to its weight. Oops, I
probably bust that reg.  too :-)

Brian

 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Jen p » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>Technically, a lighter is not allowed in your purse.  The term is "on
>your person", and there is a specific prohibition from placing the
>lighter in carry-on baggage.  A purse definitely qualifies as carry-on
>baggage under these regulations.  There is a limit to the enforceability
>of the regulations, however.

>--Mark Rogers
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 I don't think I am making myself clear, and I am not trying to say anything
anyone said here is wrong.  I know it is not enforced, as I carried a lighter
in my purse which I usually put into my carry-on bag for years.  I did not know
that I was not supposed to be doing this.  I do know that now.  I am a FA, and
I learned it in training. So, I was only wondering how the general public was
aware of this.  According to this group everyone does know it, so I guess that
is a good thing!  I mean, about once a day I have to tell a parent with a lap
child either that they cannot use the Snuggli inflight, or that they cannot
have the seatbelt around them selves and the infant.  They just aren't
generally aware of these things.  As far as the purse w/lighter, it was a
question I had, because my manual says-carried on individual or purse, not in
carry-on luggage.  Must be a mistake, so I'll ask inflight to take a look at
it.  I guess I will also ask them about the aerosols, as you said 2L, which
mine also states as per toilette articles, but specifically regarding aerosol
cans it says up to 16 oz.  I hope I have cleared up any confusion.  
 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Mark Roger » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00



>  I guess I will also ask them about the aerosols, as you said 2L, which
> mine also states as per toilette articles, but specifically regarding aerosol
> cans it says up to 16 oz.  I hope I have cleared up any confusion.

The net quantity of each aerosol container may not exceed 0.5 liters (1
pint, 16 oz.), so that is correct.  The _total_ quantity allowed per
passenger for all aerosols is 2 liters.  I didn't think any of your
posts were unclear, and I wasn't trying to argue with you.  Rather, I
was attempting to clarify what the regulations actually say.

--Mark Rogers

 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by Jen p » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Duh, to me. Gotcha!  Thanks for the clarification! :-)
 
 
 

Aerosols: Suitcase or Hand Luggage?

Post by maryanne keh » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Luggage?  

Quote:>My FA manual states under Medical/toilette >articles: Aerosol cans up

to 16 oz. are >permitted. I cannot speak for all airlines, but >keep in
mind that asthma inhalers are aerosol. >Interestingly under smoking
materials, our >policy states:
Quote:>-personal use
>-carried on individual or in purse, not in >carry-on luggage

-refillable butane lighters are >not allowed

Quote:>I wonder how many people are aware of this?

Jen, I am not doubting what you are saying at all.....but after reading
all posts on this thread, it seems that a lot of airlines have
conflicting regulations regarding this.

I was suprised to find out that LH bans _all_aerosols that contain
isobutane (which is an exremely flamable propellant)....checking some of
my toiletries cans, I was suprised to find a majority of them (except
for my non-aerosol fragrances) contain iso.

How can one airline say all aerosol cans be OK and another one says no?

I wasn't aware of the LH ban untill I got home and unpacked my stuff I
got from duty free and some local Moscow stores, my "Free Space" HD and
Legendary HD body sprays both had iso in them---oops! If I had known
about the ban, I would have never brought them back home with me.  

So, what you are saying is that an item containing isobutane is OK on
your airline as long as the item is up to 16 ounces and no more?

Maryanne

....requesting clairification on this