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Post by gm » Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:00:00


So there were some accidents with Southwest...

Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, INC.
                   Incident occurred APR-30-96 at ONTARIO, CA
                 Aircraft: Boeing 737-300-3H4, registration: N331SW
                             Injuries: 132 Uninjured.

Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES
                    Incident occurred MAY-10-96 at DALLAS, TX
                    Aircraft: Boeing 737-300, registration: N315SW
                              Injuries: 50 Uninjured.

Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES
                  Accident occurred JUL-08-96 at NASHVILLE, TN
                    Aircraft: Boeing 737-200, registration: N53SW
                     Injuries: 1 Serious, 4 Minor, 122 Uninjured.

Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES (D.B.A. SOUTHWEST
                                 AIRLINES)
                   Incident occurred OCT-04-97 at CHICAGO, IL
                    Aircraft: Boeing 737-200, registration: N129SW
                              Injuries: 50 Uninjured.

Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES COMPANY
                  Incident occurred JUL-07-98 at BIRMINGHAM, AL
                    Aircraft: Boeing 737-7H4, registration: N701GS
                              Injuries: 96 Uninjured.

Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES CO. (D.B.A.
SOUTHWEST
                                 AIRLINES)
                  Accident occurred JUN-25-99 at LAFAYETTE, LA
                   Aircraft: Boeing 737-3H4, registration: N650SW
                         Injuries: 1 Serious, 141 Uninjured.

gmg

 
 
 

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Post by Shery » Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:00:00


And your point is?



Quote:> So there were some accidents with Southwest...

> Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, INC.
>                    Incident occurred APR-30-96 at ONTARIO, CA
>                  Aircraft: Boeing 737-300-3H4, registration: N331SW
>                              Injuries: 132 Uninjured.

> Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES
>                     Incident occurred MAY-10-96 at DALLAS, TX
>                     Aircraft: Boeing 737-300, registration: N315SW
>                               Injuries: 50 Uninjured.

> Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES
>                   Accident occurred JUL-08-96 at NASHVILLE, TN
>                     Aircraft: Boeing 737-200, registration: N53SW
>                      Injuries: 1 Serious, 4 Minor, 122 Uninjured.

> Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES (D.B.A. SOUTHWEST
>                                  AIRLINES)
>                    Incident occurred OCT-04-97 at CHICAGO, IL
>                     Aircraft: Boeing 737-200, registration: N129SW
>                               Injuries: 50 Uninjured.

> Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES COMPANY
>                   Incident occurred JUL-07-98 at BIRMINGHAM, AL
>                     Aircraft: Boeing 737-7H4, registration: N701GS
>                               Injuries: 96 Uninjured.

> Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES CO. (D.B.A.
> SOUTHWEST
>                                  AIRLINES)
>                   Accident occurred JUN-25-99 at LAFAYETTE, LA
>                    Aircraft: Boeing 737-3H4, registration: N650SW
>                          Injuries: 1 Serious, 141 Uninjured.

> gmg

 
 
 

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Post by itrad » Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:00:00




> So there were some accidents with Southwest...
> Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, INC.
>                    Incident occurred APR-30-96 at ONTARIO, CA
>                  Aircraft: Boeing 737-300-3H4, registration:
> N331SW

And of those, can you give a fatality count??

Rich

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Post by gm » Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:00:00



>And your point is?

That all airlines (QANTAS as well !) have incidents in their
statistics.

It's useless to say: I fly xxxxxxx because it's perfect, never had an
accident.
Air crashes are possible always and in everytime, just as train
crashes, car crashes and so on.

That's all

gmg

 
 
 

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Post by Frank Matthew » Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:00:00


There is a difference between incidents and crashes.

Frank Matthews



> >And your point is?

> That all airlines (QANTAS as well !) have incidents in their
> statistics.

> It's useless to say: I fly xxxxxxx because it's perfect, never had an
> accident.
> Air crashes are possible always and in everytime, just as train
> crashes, car crashes and so on.

> That's all

> gmg

 
 
 

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Post by itrad » Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:00:00






> >And your point is?
> That all airlines (QANTAS as well !) have incidents in their
> statistics.
> It's useless to say: I fly xxxxxxx because it's perfect, never had
> an
> accident.
> Air crashes are possible always and in everytime, just as train
> crashes, car crashes and so on.

Well, when you're talking about incidents, you're tossing in
everything from "smoke in the***pit" to tire blowing upon landing,
to engine shutdown.  None of which are really ever dangerous (except
for when smoke in***pit turns into raging fire).  And EVERY airline
has lots of these incidents - at least 7 or 10 a year for the major
carriers.

Rich

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Post by Deborah Stevenso » Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:00:00




> >And your point is?

> That all airlines (QANTAS as well !) have incidents in their
> statistics.

QANTAS has fatalities.  AFAIK, Southwest does not.

Deborah Stevenson

 
 
 

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Post by D_A_Lin » Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:00:00





> > So there were some accidents with Southwest...
> > Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, INC.
> >                    Incident occurred APR-30-96 at ONTARIO, CA
> >                  Aircraft: Boeing 737-300-3H4, registration:
> > N331SW

> And of those, can you give a fatality count??

> Rich

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what part of "uninjured" don't you understand?
 
 
 

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Post by Mark Roger » Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:00:00



> If no one's hurt then it's not an "accident," it's an "incident."

Not according to the NTSB.  There are very clear definitions of
accidents and incidents, and an event can qualify as an accident
without any injuries if enough damage takes place.

--Mark Rogers

 
 
 

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Post by Neas » Sun, 21 Nov 1999 04:00:00


On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:32:23 GMT, D_A_Ling





>> > So there were some accidents with Southwest...

If no one's hurt then it's not an "accident," it's an "incident."

Steve

Quote:>> > Scheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, INC.
>> >                    Incident occurred APR-30-96 at ONTARIO, CA
>> >                  Aircraft: Boeing 737-300-3H4, registration:
>> > N331SW

>> And of those, can you give a fatality count??

>> Rich

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>what part of "uninjured" don't you understand?

 
 
 

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Post by mga.. » Sun, 21 Nov 1999 04:00:00





> > And of those, can you give a fatality count??

> > Rich
> what part of "uninjured" don't you understand?

What part of "sarcasm" don't YOU understand?  ;-)

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Post by mga.. » Sun, 21 Nov 1999 04:00:00


In article


Quote:> QANTAS has fatalities.  AFAIK, Southwest does not.

US carriers with scheduled jet operations, in operation for at least ten
years, that have never had a passenger fatality:

America West
American Trans Air
Hawaiian
Southwest

any others?

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Post by ITRAD » Sun, 21 Nov 1999 04:00:00



> In article


> > QANTAS has fatalities.  AFAIK, Southwest does not.

> US carriers with scheduled jet operations, in operation for at least ten
> years, that have never had a passenger fatality:

> America West
> American Trans Air
> Hawaiian
> Southwest

How about carriers like Spirit or ProAir?  They are infants, but they
certinly haven't had fatalities.  QQ was fataility free IIRC.

Rich

 
 
 

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Post by mga.. » Mon, 22 Nov 1999 04:00:00




Quote:> > US carriers with scheduled jet operations, in operation for at least
ten
> > years, that have never had a passenger fatality:

> > America West
> > American Trans Air
> > Hawaiian
> > Southwest

> How about carriers like Spirit or ProAir?  They are infants, but they
> certinly haven't had fatalities.  QQ was fataility free IIRC.

> Rich

You are correct, sir, but that's why I put in the 'at least ten years'
qualification, to serve as some sort of benchmark.  Spirit is actually
getting close, having started operations (albeit charter only at first)
in 1990.  Reno had over seven perfectly safe years, 92-99.

Funny how a startup like Midwest Express can survive a horrible crash
shortly after beginning operations (at MKE in 1984(?)), while other new
entrants like Air Florida never recover from their first, and only,
fatal event.  And then of course ValuJet/AirTran had to pretty much
adopt an entirely new identity and try to erase all memories of their
former self.

Mike

Mike

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Post by ITRAD » Mon, 22 Nov 1999 04:00:00





> > > US carriers with scheduled jet operations, in operation for at least
> ten
> > > years, that have never had a passenger fatality:

> > > America West
> > > American Trans Air
> > > Hawaiian
> > > Southwest

> > How about carriers like Spirit or ProAir?  They are infants, but they
> > certinly haven't had fatalities.  QQ was fataility free IIRC.

> > Rich

> You are correct, sir, but that's why I put in the 'at least ten years'
> qualification, to serve as some sort of benchmark.  Spirit is actually
> getting close, having started operations (albeit charter only at first)
> in 1990.  Reno had over seven perfectly safe years, 92-99.

My bad.  Didn't see the 10 year bit.  I'm just going to toss out a couple
names; I'm not sure how long they have been in existence; and I'm too
lazy to look up the NTSB database.  

Midway
Frontier (on one or more of its reincarnations).

Rich