>On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 00:27:54 GMT, Fair & Balanced Trebor ?
>>Instead of personal ad-hominum attack against me, why can't either of
>>you demonstrate where anything that I said was untrue. Bush is
>>receiving political kickbacks from polluters at the same time that he
>>is smashing environmental regulations in order to allow our air to be
>>much dirtier and our water much less pure than it would otherwise be,
>>and pollution of the air and water has been linked in numerous studies
>>to numerous health problems and premature deaths, especially in
>>children and old people. If you can dispute any of these FACTS with a
>>rational and reasoned rebuttal, than please do so. If not, then stop
>>wasting bandwidth and let someone else try.
>>The truth is that the crime is actually so obvious and premeditated
>>and horrendous, that you cannott even accept it in spite of all the
>>evidence. That's the real problem - you don't want to believe that
>>such a monster is really president of the United States. Emotionally,
>>you simply can't come to terms with that reality. But neither did the
>>German people want to believe all the crimes of Hitler. But that
>>doesn't mean the holocaust didn't happen.
>Proving a negative is impossible.
It would be very possible to prove that Bush wasn't taking money from
polluters - it's a matter of public record. Unfortunatly he is.
>Prove your first statement " Bush is receiving political kickbacks
Dec. 11, 2003
Public Interest Groups Bash Bushs Big Donor Fundraising from Perilous
Polluters and Influence-Peddlers in ***ia
***ia Is for Lobbyists: 10 Local Rangers and Pioneers Work on K
WASHINGTON, D.C. Environmental and public interest groups gathered
today near the site of an exclusive ***ia fundraiser to protest
President Bushs practice of paying back his biggest contributors with
weakened environmental regulations, pork-barrel projects and plum
The $2,000-a-plate luncheon in McLean is the 43rd and final fundraiser
headlined by Bush this year. After Thursdays event, the Bush-Cheney
campaign is expected pass the $111 million mark for a primary contest
in which the president is running unopposed. Averaging nearly $5
million a week in contributions, the campaign has held 91 events
headlined by Bush, Vice President Cheney or First Lady Laura Bush
since June, according to WhiteHouseForSale.org, a Web site created by
"In exchange for millions in campaign cash, the Bush administration
has rewarded its rainmakers with environmentally destructive policies
that include a radical alteration of clean air laws and a pork-laden
energy bill filled with billions in handouts to polluters," said Frank
Clemente, director of Public Citizens Congress Watch.
Leaders from the electric utility industry, for example, were
regularly consulted by Cheneys secretive energy task force and
received key appointments within the administration. Ultimately, they
helped rewrite a key Clean Air Act rule that had required polluters
like ***ias Dominion Power to retrofit their plants with pollution
controls when making plant modifications. Future legal actions against
such polluters are blocked under the new rule. Bushs Environmental
Protection Agency recently announced it is considering weakening
regulations governing mercury emissions as well.
"The Bush administrations mercury plan is just another example of
their catering to big polluters who make big campaign contributions,"
said Pamela Irwin of the Sierra Clubs ***ia chapter. "Instead of
supporting weak standards, the administration should require existing
technology that reduces emissions of toxic mercury by 90 percent."
Public Citizen, a national consumer group with more than 3,000
***ia members, launched WhiteHouseForSale.org to track contributors
to Bushs 2004 re-election fund, particularly those dubbed "Rangers"
and "Pioneers" for steering $200,000 or $100,000, respectively, to the
campaign. The Web site features an updated, searchable database of all
309 individuals named Rangers or Pioneers by the Bush campaign.
So far, 15 ***ians have been identified as Rangers or Pioneers
(this includes two married couples who raised money together).
Two-thirds of these top fundraisers work as Washington lobbyists,
representing a wide range of corporations seeking special favors from
the Bush administration. They include:
Former U.S. Rep. Bill Paxon (R-N.Y.) of Akin Gump, who has become an
influential lobbyist. Corporations such as Bechtel, Boeing and Pfizer
pay big money to take advantage of Paxons close ties to Bush. Not
only was Paxon named a Pioneer in 2000 and 2004, but he served as
chairman of the Bush-Cheney transition team.
Lobbyists Leslie J. Brorsen, a Pioneer from the accounting firm Ernst
& Young, and Richard F. Hohlt, a Ranger whose clients include Altria,
Cinergy and J.P. Morgan. Both served on Bushs transition team at the
Treasury Department. Pioneer David A. Metzner of American Continental
Group, a member of Bushs Commerce Department transition team,
represents Exelon, PepsiCo and Siemens. Metzners partner, 2000
Pioneer Peter Terpeluk, was appointed as ambassador to Luxembourg by
Bush last year.
Husband-and-wife Pioneers Charlie and Judy Black, both lobbyists.
Charlie Black is a former senior adviser to former President Reagan
and spokesman for the first President Bush. Charlie Black now works on
behalf of companies like AT&T, GM and NBC. Judy Black is a former
Reagan aide who represents Comcast, Merrill *** and Ticketmaster.
Pioneer Mark Holman, who left his position as the top aide to Tom
Ridge at the White House Office of Homeland Security last year to
become a lobbyist for Blank Rome. His clients include Boeing,
BearingPoint, the Homeland Security Corporation, and DestiNY USA, a
project aiming to build the countrys largest shopping mall in upstate
New York. Buried in the massive energy bill is a $2 billion tax break
earmarked for DestiNY, the brainchild of fellow Bush Pioneer Robert J.
Other Rangers from ***ia are developer Dwight C. Schar, a part
owner of the Washington Redskins, and Marvin P. Bush, the presidents
brother. Thursdays event is expected to add more names to the list of
top fundraisers when the campaign releases an update in mid-January.
In the 2000 election, 15 ***ians pledged to raise at least
$100,000, although campaign officials did not confirm if they all
raised the full amount.
"This elite group of super-lobbyists understands the value of having
special status with the administration," Clemente said. "These
influence-peddlers buy insider access with generous campaign
contributions. Then they turn around and sell that access to their
clients. This system is destroying our democracy."
>Internet blogs do not count as proof.
too bad for you stupid - they do. If you don't like it, prove the
story to be wrong. Everyone knows Bush is raking in money had over
over***from polluters, and everyone knows that's why he's also
slashing pollution regulations. What's unbelieveable is that you
would even bother to try and deny it. But then, a lot of people still
deny the holocaust too.